Number: 2266 Date: 26-Sep-84 13':33':39 Submitter: Sannella.PA Source: tanner.pa Subject: Possible Dlion ucode page-fault bug': FILES? dies on "no" answer Assigned To: Attn: Charnley, Purcell, vanMelle, Masinter Status: Open In/By: Problem Type: Bug Impact: Serious Difficulty: Frequency: Priority: Absolutely System: Language Support Subsystem: Microcode Machine: Disk: Lisp Version: Source Files: Microcode Version: Memory Size: File Server: Server Software Version: Disposition: Description: ' Date': 25 Sep 84 12':44 PDT' From': Sannella.pa' Subject': Re': Lisp': FILES? enters BREAK on "no" answer' In-reply-to': tanner.pa''s message of 24 Sep 84 17':45 PDT' To': tanner.pa' cc': LispSupport.pa' ' Does this happen repeatedly? Answering "n" seems to work for me. If this happens again, could you do a backtrace in the break window, and send that info along. Better still, if an Interlisp wizard is around, let him look at it' ' -----' ' Date': 25 Sep 84 11':33 PDT' From': tanner.pa' Subject': Lisp': FILES? leads to DLion Death' To': LispSupport.pa' cc': tanner.pa' ' Lisp System Date': 19-Sep-84 17':34':51' Machine': Dandelion (25200045447)' Microcode version': 24,1' Memory size': 5777' Frequency': Once ' Impact': Fatal ' ' I said earlier that responding "n" to the "want to way where the above go ? " prompt resulted in a BREAK.' ' Today the same response crashed my machine (9304 on the MP). It was a "terminally fatal" crash, not recoverable by any means known to me (which is not many).' ' mike' ' -----' ' Date': 25 Sep 84 15':57 PDT' From': tanner.pa' Subject': Re': Lisp': FILES? enters BREAK on "no" answer' In-reply-to': Sannella.pa''s message of 25 Sep 84 12':44 PDT' To': Sannella.pa' cc': tanner.pa, LispSupport.pa' ' It seems to be a problem related to running a sysout which was made on another machine. I made a sysout on a Dolphin, ftp''d to a Dandelion, then ran on the Dandelion. The problem doesn''t occur when I run the same sysout on the Dolphin. And it turns out that not only ''n'' but''y'', '']'', and ''?'' also break. I was running in the same mode under the old Loops sysout -- 3 Jul, lisp of 21 Jun -- and this did not occur. ' ' Also, waiting for the thing to time-out and say ''No'' on its own fixes the problem. After this it will accept answers without breaking.' ' When I tried running GAINSPACE (for unrelated reasons) the same thing happened when it prompted.' ' Bill van Melle has been looking at it this afternoon but I don''t know it he has any ideas yet.' ' mike' ' -----' ' Date': 25 Sep 84 21':23 PDT' From': vanMelle.pa' Subject': Lisp': another DLion uCode bug?' To': LispSupport.pa, Charnley' cc': Masinter, vanMelle.pa' ' Frequency': Intermittent' Impact': Serious' ' Michael Tanner reported this one running in Loops built on Lisp of 19-Sep-84, I believe. He got it intermittently after typing "N" in response to the FILES? prompt asking about saying where to put changed things. I verified that it always happened after a \RELEASEWORKINGSET, but never the second time, so appears pagefault related.' ' Anyway, the symptom was a non-numeric arg T as the second arg to IGREATERP at PC 2675 in ASKUSERA0034. The code in that neighborhood is' ' 2667': 117 24 PVARX KEY' 2671': 11 4 151 FN1 NCHARS' 2674': 361 IGREATERP' ' Byte 2670 begins the page. Evidence is that this code should not have been executed, as the value of KEY was the atom %], but breaking NCHARS reveals that NCHARS only gets called with argument N, his answer.' ' Looking back to the previous page, the code is':' ' 1660': 127 70 FVARX FILE' 1662': 245 TJUMP->1671' 1663': 127 64 FVARX FILE' 1665': 11 7 40 FN1 READC' 1670': 277 POP' 1671': 127 66 FVARX KEYLST' 1673': 1 CAR' ' with byte 1670 the start of a page.' ' Anyway, that''s as far as I''ve poked. A wild jump to byte 2670 would be interpreted as RPLPTR.N 11, NTYPX, T; a wild jump to byte 2672 or 2673 would also catch a tail of that bogus instruction interpretation, and the second arg to IGREATERP was indeed always T, though the first varied (always a small integer, but one such value, 169, might have been a tad large to be a valid value of NTYPX, though conceivably they do go that high in Loops).' ' Bill' ' Workaround: Test Case: Edit-By: Edit-Date: