Number: 841

Date: 26-Apr-84 12':24':31

Submitter: Sannella.PA

Source: Sheil.pa

Subject: Tedit won''t hardcopy to non-local NS printer, resets printinghost

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Description: '
Date': 25 Apr 84 12':04 PST'
From': Sheil.pa'
Subject': Lisp': TEdit/NS': Won''t hardcopy to non-local NS printer'
To': LispSupport.pa'
cc': sybalsky'
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Lisp System Date': 16-Apr-84 12':58':26'
Machine': Dolphin (Bunyip)'
Priority': Absolutely'
Frequency': Always'
Impact': Serious'
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Trying to print a document on the NS print server in Pasadena, I reset the DEFAULTPRINTHOST to its fully qualified network name (Independence':XSIS-HQ':Xerox) and hit the hardcopy command.'
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Much broadcasting, and then a msg to the effect that the default NS printer was set to LispPrint, followed by printing on LispPrint.'
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The bug is that the printer was reset.'
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Date': 26 Apr 84 16':25 PST'
From': Sheil.pa'
Subject': Re': AR 841': Tedit won''t hardcopy to non-local NS printer, resets printinghost'
In-reply-to': Sannella.PA''s message of 26 Apr 84 12':28':06 PST (Thursday)'
To': lispsupport'
cc': Kaplan.PA, Masinter.PA'
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I really used DEFAULTPRINTINGHOST, after first having checked that it was the right variable by looking at its previous value.'
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It''s a bug.'
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Beau'
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Date':  9 May 84 18':22 PDT'
From': Masinter.pa'
Subject': hardcopy problem'
To': TEditSupport'
cc': Sheil, Kaplan'
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Beau reported a problem on 26 April about trying to hardcopy a document by setting DEFAULTPRINTINGHOST. I tested this out and I am now convinced this is a TEdit problem, since hardcopy of windows and LISTFILES seems to go properly to DEFAULTPRINTINGHOST.'
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Date':  9 May 84 18':56 PDT'
From': Sybalsky.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Masinter.pa''s message of 9 May 84 18':22 PDT'
To': Masinter.pa'
cc': TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa, Kaplan.pa'
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Nyet pravda.  TEdit uses the normal host-selection mechanisms of Lisp.  My impression was that Beau had set DEFAULTPRINTHOST (note the name!).'
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"...I am now convinced this is a TEdit problem, since hardcopy of windows and LISTFILES seems to go properly to DEFAULTPRINTINGHOST."  Did you try TEdit as well?'
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Date':  9 May 84 19':21 PDT'
From': Sheil.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Sybalsky.pa''s message of 9 May 84 18':56 PDT'
To': Sybalsky.pa'
cc': Masinter.pa, TEditSupport.pa, Kaplan.pa'
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John':'
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As I have already told you via separate msg, the DEFAULTPRINTHOST was a typo in my message, and was not the cause of the problem.'
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Note that the problem is a little more specifc than Larry''s msg suggests. Redirection seems to works fine among Pup printers. The problem was when DPH was set to a single, NS print server in a foreign domain (something like, XSIS-HQ':Independence) that the TEdit hardcopy went to LispPrint anyway.'
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Beau'
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Date': 10 May 84 10':24 PDT'
From': Masinter.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Sybalsky.pa''s message of 9 May 84 18':56 PDT'
To': Sybalsky.pa'
cc': Masinter.pa, TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa, Kaplan.pa'
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Yes, I did try Hardcopy from TEDIT and yes it failed. I should have said': I have verified that TEDIT fails while LISTFILES and HARDCOPYW succeed.'
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Date': 10 May 84 11':05 PDT'
From': Sybalsky.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Masinter.pa''s message of 10 May 84 10':24 PDT'
To': Masinter.pa'
cc': Sybalsky.pa, TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa, Kaplan.pa'
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TEdit is calling NSPRINT with a host argument of NIL, whereas LISTFILES, at least, has already snarfed the host name and uses it.  I''ll look into changing my code.  I think something changed out from under me.'
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Date': 10 May 84 13':17 PDT'
From': Sybalsky.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Masinter.pa''s message of 9 May 84 18':22 PDT'
To': Masinter.pa'
cc': TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa, Kaplan.pa'
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OK, I''ve done my bit for the hardcopy problem--the Interpress side of it now uses SEND.FILE.TO.PRINTER.  Now how about some documentation, so I can figure out how to ask for multiple copies, single-sided copies, etc?'
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Date': 10 May 84 13':42 PDT'
From': Masinter.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Sybalsky.pa''s message of 10 May 84 11':05 PDT'
To': Sybalsky.pa'
cc': Masinter.pa, TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa, Kaplan.pa'
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I think TEDIT should be calling EMPRESS (or SEND.FILE.TO.PRINTER, which is what EMPRESS calls).'
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You already set it up so that if you LISTFILES a tedit file, it does the ''right thing'' automatically. '
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Why don''t you just fix it so that the ''HARDCOPY'' option in TEDIT uses that same mechanism. It would simplify the code, too.'
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Date': 10 May 84 17':41 PDT'
From': Kaplan.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Sybalsky.pa''s message of 10 May 84 13':17 PDT'
To': Sybalsky.pa'
cc': Masinter.pa, TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa'
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Shouldn''t the PRESS side of it also go thru that interface?'
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Date': 10 May 84 17':55 PDT'
From': Sybalsky.pa'
Subject': Re': hardcopy problem'
In-reply-to': Kaplan.pa''s message of 10 May 84 17':41 PDT'
To': Kaplan.pa'
cc': Sybalsky.pa, Masinter.pa, TEditSupport.pa, Sheil.pa'
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It calls EMPRESS, which does.'


Workaround: 

Test Case: 

Edit-By: Sannella.PA

Edit-Date: 17-Aug-84  9':40':50

Attn: 

Assigned To: 

In/By: Harmony

Disposition: [changed attn to vanMelle, Cooper, since this is a NS problem, I think]

System: Windows and Graphics

Subsystem: Printing

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Difficulty: Hard

Frequency: Once

Impact: Serious

Priority: Hopefully

Status: Closed

Problem Type: Bug

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