Number: 190 Date: 19-Mar-84 17':02':52 Submitter: Sannella.PA Source: Feuerman.pasa,JonL Subject: Document in Performance section about how to defer GC, find storage leaks Assigned To: Attn: Documentation Status: Open In/By: Problem Type: Documentation Impact: Moderate Difficulty: Hard Frequency: Everytime Priority: Unlikely System: Language Support Subsystem: Storage Formats/Mgt Machine: Disk: Lisp Version: 26-Jan-84 Source Files: Microcode Version: Memory Size: File Server: Server Software Version: Disposition: ' ["masinter" " 4-Sep-84 14':28':52" Source': Subject':] Description: ' Date': 19 Mar 84 08':40 PST' From': Feuerman.pasa' Subject': Lisp': Garbage Collection' To': LispSupport.pa' cc': Feuerman.pasa' Lisp-System-Date': 26-Jan-84 01':48':36' Machine-Type': Dolphin' ' Is there some way to temporarily turn off the garbage collection routine? I realize I may be getting into trouble with this, but it''s something I want to look into. The reason is that I''m trying to speed up a particular interactive routine, and everytime I call the routine, the cursor inverts for a good second or so before the user actually sees that the routine is being invoked. The fact that we go through a garbage collection everytime I invoke the procedure probably means somthing, too. Anybody know what that is? How much trouble could I be getting into if I were to disable the reclaim temporarily until the routine was over?' ' --Ken.' ' -----' ' Date': 19 Mar 84 17':18 PST' From': Masinter.pa' Subject': Re': AR 190': How to turn off GC ?' In-reply-to': LispSupport.pa''s message of 19 Mar 84 17':03':38 PST (Monday)' To': LispSupport.pa' cc': Feuerman.pasa, Masinter.pa' ' This is not so much TURNING OFF the GC as it is temporarily deferring its work.' ' You can modify the time-until-next-GC by setting RECLAIMMIN high before the operation (I believe 177777Q is the actual limit) and then setting it low, e.g.' ' (RECLAIMMIN (PROG1 (RECLAIMMIN MAX.SMALLP) ]' ' Ken, you should also find out why your routine is CONSing so much. TIMEALL, BREAKDOWN, and DOSTATS may be able to help you track it down. ' ' Please report any problems you have in tracking down the source of all of the GC activity.' ' [to': LispSupport': this AR is not Fixed, but it may be type': Documentation]' ' -----' ' Date': 19 MAR 84 18':21 PST' From': JONL.PA' Subject': Re': Lisp': Garbage Collection' To': Feuerman.pasa, LispSupport' cc': JONL' ' In response to the message sent 19 Mar 84 08':40 PST from Feuerman.pasa' ' You could just adjust the GC parameters -- see page 18.2 of the new manual --' and that would postpone the interval between reclaims.' ' On the other hand, if you have a Dorado, you can call (DISABLEGC) and all the' GC activity is shut down (unfortunately, you can''t then re-enable it). The' reason you need a dorado is that there is a subtle buggy interaction between' the software and microcode after DISABLEGC has been called and I don''t think' the other microcoders have taken the time to track it down and fix it [I did' because I needed to run a benchmark -- the BOYER test -- with no GC running.' SIgh, it ran slower because the dominating cost was page swap time].' ' Workaround: Test Case: Edit-By: masinter Edit-Date: 4-Sep-84 14':28':54