Number: 127 Date: 17-Mar-84 0':22':05 Submitter: masinter.PA Source: Subject: characterize performance profile Assigned To: Attn: Lisp Status: Open In/By: Problem Type: Documentation Impact: Moderate Difficulty: Very Hard Frequency: Priority: Unlikely System: Documentation Subsystem: Product Descr/Tech Summary Machine: Disk: Lisp Version: Source Files: Microcode Version: Memory Size: File Server: Server Software Version: Disposition: This is more for marketing literature than anything else. It is hard to do this well. Description: The technical summary should address some of the misconceptions about our machine architecture. I started to write some stuff, but didn''t put it in a polished form.' ' VanBuer': "Dandelion and Dolphin have 16-bit ALUs, as a result most arithmetic is pretty slow"' The 16-bit ALU has little to do with arithmetic performance. Dandelion looks quite competitive, especially on small integer arithmetic. The hardware/microcode floating point is also competitive with most other lisp machines.' ' ' vanBuer claimed limited control store. ' The 1108 with extended control store (1108X? dunno what they are going to call it) will have more graphics primitives in microcode (e.g., line drawing.) As far as I can tell after using a 3600 for a while, a Dandelion is comperable to a 3600 for graphics processing (at least, without their color hardware board, since the memory bandwidth is in the same ballpark). ' ' He was concerned about the inability of DLion architecturally to support color. Steve, can a DLion support high performance color processing?' Workaround: Test Case: Edit-By: Masinter Edit-Date: 31-May-84 15':27':07