Number: 1489

Date: 22-Jun-84 14':52':26

Submitter: Sannella.PA

Source: Sam Hahn <SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA>

Subject: Want to access {DSK8} ... {DSK19} on big-disk dorados

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Date': Thu, 21 Jun 84 13':25':02 PDT'
From': Sam Hahn <SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA>'
Subject': Dorado Partitions'
To': Schmidt@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA'
cc': lispsupport.PA'
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Our Dorado is currently set up with 19 partitions, and'
file transfer between partitions 1-7 seem to be ok, but'
why not for partitions with numbers >7?'
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Is there something I should be doing that I''m not?'
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Subject': Re': Dorado Partitions'
In-reply-to': SHahn''s message of Thu, 21 Jun 84 13':25':02 PDT'
To': Sam Hahn <SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA>'
cc': Schmidt@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA, lispsupport'
From': LispSupport.pa'
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No, you are not doing anything wrong.'
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Unfortunately, it is not possible to access partitions >7 using the construct {DSKx}.  If you are running lisp on partition n (n>7), you can access that partition as {DSK}, so you can potentially access up to eight partitions from within lisp.'
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Date': Fri, 22 Jun 84 15':06':03 PDT'
From': Sam Hahn <SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA>'
Subject': Re': Dorado Partitions'
To': LispSupport.pa'
In-Reply-To': Message from "LispSupport.pa@XEROX.ARPA" of Fri 22 Jun 84 14':51':39-PDT'
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Will this be fixed/improved, or shall I fight somebody for a partition'
number <7?'
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Sender': Sannella.PA'
Date': 25 Jun 84 16':51':59 PDT (Monday)'
Subject': Re': Dorado Partitions'
In-reply-to': SHahn''s message of Fri, 22 Jun 84 15':06':03 PDT'
To': Sam Hahn <SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA>'
cc': LispSupport'
From': LispSupport.pa'
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It is hoped that this will be fixed eventually, but I can''t promise that it will happen any time soon.'
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Date': Mon, 25 Jun 84 17':01':25 PDT'
From': Sam Hahn <SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA>'
Subject': Re': Dorado Partitions'
To': LispSupport.pa'
In-Reply-To': Message from "LispSupport.pa@XEROX.ARPA" of Mon 25 Jun 84 16':51':59-PDT'
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OK....'
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Date': 25 Jun 84 18':32 PDT'
From': JonL.pa'
Subject': Re': Dorado Partitions'
In-reply-to': LispSupport.pa''s message of 25 Jun 84 16':51':59 PDT (Monday)'
To': LispSupport.pa'
cc': JonL.pa,vanMelle'
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Talking with Bill -- doesn''t look like the situation will ever be "fixed" except by abandoning the Alto File System (i.e., going for Pilot compatibility in all three Interlisp-D machines).'
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-- JonL --'
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Date': 25 Jun 84 18':19 PDT'
From': masinter.pa'
Subject': scheduling development tasks to complete announced products'
To': Sheil'
cc': LispSupport, Purcell, vanMelle'
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AR#2':'
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Until we have a schedule and a delivery date for better support for 19-partition dorados, we should be telling people they are getting 80MB disks (which is what the original price list said) and tell them the extra 220, if they can get at it, is ''free''.'
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The AR is to make sure that the 19-partition dorado support task is on the list and marked as Unlikely, and the other action item is to get the message to marketing.'
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Date': 25 Jun 84 19':00 PDT'
From': JonL.pa'
Subject': Re': scheduling development tasks to complete announced products'
In-reply-to': masinter.pa''s message of 25 Jun 84 18':19 PDT'
To': masinter.pa'
cc': Sheil.pa, JonL.pa, LispSupport.pa, Purcell.pa, vanMelle.pa'
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Re AR#2 -- '
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I don''t see any reason to be so niggardly with the Dorado -- the large disks are certainly usable in all partitions, with about the same functionality than the Dorado/Dolphin world had at this time last year -- i.e., you can put Lisp on any partition, and "reach" 5 or more non-connected partitions from within Lisp.'
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Although quadrupling the number of partitions hasn''t quadrupled the DSK space available to a single sysoute, it certainly has quadrupled the number of users/applications that can have a private partition.  Many of the new Pool machines show that here.'
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I suggest informing marketing of the assymetry of the "reach" -- namely that partitions which one may want to access from other partitions should be amongst the first 7.'
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Edit-By: Sannella.PA

Edit-Date:  9-Aug-84 12':38':47

Attn: vanMelle, JonL

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System: Operating System

Subsystem: Dolphin/Dorado Disk

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Difficulty: Very Hard

Frequency: Everytime

Impact: Moderate

Priority: Unlikely

Status: Open

Problem Type: Bug

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