Number: 552
Date: 9-Apr-84 12':14':39
Submitter: Sannella.PA
Source: AHenderson.pa
Subject: Make it easier to change user name that Lafite uses to find mail files
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Date': 6 Apr 84 10':16 PST'
From': Pindar.pa'
Subject': Lafite': Shifting user while in Lafite'
To': LafiteSupport.pa'
cc': Pindar.pa, AHenderson.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 29-Mar-84 16':35':49'
Machine-Type': Dandelion'
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(From Austin Henderson)'
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I was logged in as me when I loaded Lafite into a Lisp.Sysout (not Full). I started Lafite, but then realized that I wanted to be logged in as Maia Pindar. This realization came when Lafite was asking for confirmation to create files in {Phylum}<AHenderson>Lisp>. I didn''t confirm, but then could not figure out how to redirect Lafite. I logged in as Maia, and connecte to her directory, turned Lafite OFF and ON again, and still it insisted on being AHenderson. Note however that this form was created with her name on it. Help with either a model or a command or a change in the behavior.'
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Thanks,'
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Austin'
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Date': 9 Apr 84 13':15 PST'
From': ckiparsky.pa'
Subject': Lafite': UNSUCCESSFUL LOGIN '
To': LafiteSupport.pa'
cc': ckiparsky.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 20-Mar-84 18':25':18'
Machine-Type': Dandelion'
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I have logged in at the top level and in the Lafite TTY, but I cannot get my active mailfolder - the previous user''s comes up, though I get my own forms for sending mail, and my name in the Lafite Status Window.'
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Please help.'
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Carol Kiparsky'
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Date': 9 Apr 84 13':57 PST'
From': vanMelle.pa'
Subject': Re': Lafite': UNSUCCESSFUL LOGIN '
In-reply-to': ckiparsky.pa''s message of 9 Apr 84 13':15 PST'
To': ckiparsky.pa'
cc': LafiteSupport.pa'
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Lafite''s default location to look for mail files is specified by the variable LAFITEDEFAULTHOST&DIR, or if that is NIL, then your "home" directory, the value of LOGINHOST/DIR. Neither of those variables is affected by LOGIN. You probably want to both LOGIN and then call GREET to load your init file, which is the best place to have those variables defined.'
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Bill'
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Date': 9 Apr 84 15':03 PST'
From': ckiparsky.pa'
Subject': Lafite': in-reply-to': vanMelle''s message, 15 minutes ago'
To': LafiteSupport.pa '
cc': ckiparsky.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 20-Mar-84 18':25':18'
Machine-Type': Dandelion'
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Thanks for your reply. Doing LOGIN and GREET for the second time today did not affect the situation. LAFITEDEFAULTHOST&DIR gave me "{phylum}<ckiparsky>mail>". When I tried to plug this into LAFITE ''ON it gave me "unbound atom ckiparsky "! And "browse" still just brings up Ishikawa''s folder. '
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Carol Kiparsky'
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Date': 13 Apr 84 11':31 PST'
From': vanMelle.pa'
Subject': Re': AR#552': Shifting user while in Lafite'
To': AHenderson'
cc': LafiteSupport'
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To change Lafite user, you need to turn Lafite off, LOGIN, make sure you have LAFITEDEFAULTHOST&DIR set the way you want (or LOGINHOST/DIR if the former is NIL), perhaps by calling GREET to get your init loaded, then turn Lafite back on.'
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There is an AR for making Lafite smarter or more helpful about this (by the way, '
LispSupport': AR 552 and 652 are the same). Meanwhile, I need to document better the current state.'
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Bill'
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Date': 12 Apr 84 02':00 PST'
From': christman.pa'
Subject': Lafite': quiting from lafite'
To': LafiteSupport.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 31-Mar-84 23':30':06'
Machine-Type': Dandelion'
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Right now I am trying to quit out of lafite and I can''t because'
it is asking me for a password for someone who (I think) was'
using lafite before me and had a folder "open". I tried to "forget"'
the other persons folder and tried to quit again but it still is'
asking me for the other persons password.'
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-dave'
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Date': 12 Apr 84 11':55 PST'
From': vanMelle.pa'
Subject': Re': Lafite': quiting from lafite'
In-reply-to': christman.pa''s message of 12 Apr 84 02':00 PST'
To': christman.pa'
cc': LafiteSupport.pa'
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If you could say what the password is being requested for (do a backtrace!), it would help. Various possibilities':'
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(1) There is a browser open on a folder that needs updating but which you don''t have write access to. Solution': Before quitting, close the browser, selecting "Don''t Update".'
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(2) The Lafite is "greeted" for someone else and it is trying to update that user''s profile. I.e., LAFITEDEFAULTHOST&DIR and/or LOGINHOST/DIR were set for someone else. Solution': retfrom the function that is updating the profile (something like \LAFITE.WRITE.PROFILE). Not so nice, but Lafite is currently not very good at changing users midstream.'
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Bill'
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Date': 30 Apr 84 09':43 PDT'
From': Sheil.pa'
Subject': Lafite': Can''t clear LafiteUser'
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Lafite System Date': 8-Apr-84 17':20':45'
Lisp System Date': 26-Apr-84 11':50':17'
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Found that someone else had started Lafite in an image I wanted to run in. I turned off Lafite, LOGged in (set username etc) and then restarted Lafite. It opened the same active mail file (Tayloes), alth it was polling for my new mail. I only barely escaped loading my new mail into Tayloe''s file! Further, it was quite happy to let me read msgs out of tayloes active.mail, even tho I do not normally have access to same.'
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I could not figure out how to clear this cache and get my own mail, so I eventually had to reload.'
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Beau'
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AR 476':'
Date': 2 Apr 84 17':28 PST'
From': stansbury.pa'
Subject': Lafite': greetings'
To': LafiteSupport.pa'
cc': desrivieres.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 31-Mar-84 23':30':06'
Machine-Type': Dandelion'
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At present, once one user has sent or read mail in a world, he remains the sender (the "from':" and "cc':") despite intervening MAKESYS and GREET operations. It would be better if Lafite forgot this information.'
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Date': 2 Aug 84 16':01 PDT'
From': Stefik.pa'
Subject': Lafite': Starting in a used sysout'
To': LafiteSupport.pa'
cc': Stefik.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 27-Jul-84 21':52':40'
Machine-Type': Dorado'
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Question': If I enter a sysout where somebody else has already been using LAFITE, how can I initialize it to me. Just saying LAFITE(ON) and then LAFITE(OFF) doesn''t do it -- this fails to change the browse options. Closing the windows doesn''t always help, because it prompts me for passwords I don''t know. Suggestions? Mark'
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Date': 2 Aug 84 16':55 PDT'
From': vanMelle.pa'
Subject': Re': Lafite': Starting in a used sysout'
In-reply-to': Stefik.pa''s message of 2 Aug 84 16':01 PDT'
To': Stefik.pa'
cc': LafiteSupport.pa'
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Turn Lafite off if it''s on, then login as yourself. The only thing remaining to do before turning Lafite back on is to tell it where you keep your mail files by setting LAFITEDEFAULTHOST&DIR, or if that is NIL and you like to keep it NIL, LOGINHOST/DIR. These variables are a typical part of people''s profiles, so many take care of this by calling (GREET).'
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It would be nicer if Lafite did this automatically when it notices a different user logged in, but I haven''t yet devised a smooth way to do it (there''s no way, for example, for Lafite to know where your file server is, for example, or that you really want your mail on {DSK4} instead of {Ivy}<Stefik>Mail>).'
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Bill'
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Edit-By: Sannella.PA
Edit-Date: 6-Aug-84 16':15':42
Attn: vanMelle.pa
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Subsystem: Lafite
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Difficulty:
Frequency: Everytime
Impact: Moderate
Priority: Perhaps
Status: Open
Problem Type: Design - UI
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