Number: 156

Date: 18-Mar-84 14':02':40

Submitter: Sannella.PA

Source: DMRussell.pa

Subject: TEdit': deletion after UNDO should cumulate': Typo on BS looses much work

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Date': 16 Mar 84 14':36 PST'
From': DMRussell.pa'
Subject': Lafite': Section Delete!!!'
To': LafiteSupport.pa'
cc': DMRussell.pa'
Lafite-System-Date': 28-Feb-84 13':10':33'
Lisp-System-Date': 13-Mar-84 10':21':31'
Machine-Type': Dorado'
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On my machine, top-blank deletes all of the last section I''ve typed in.  In Laurel, this was OKAY because by typing top-blank again, you got the deleted section back.  THIS ISN''T TRUE in Lafite!!  '
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I can''t tell you the number of times I''ve gone to reach for BS, missed, and deleted a massive amount of text.  Is there a way around this problem?? Can I get the lost text back into my window??'
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-- DMR -- '
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Date': 16 Mar 84 15':19 PST'
From': Sybalsky.pa'
Subject': Re': Lafite': Section Delete!!!'
In-reply-to': DMRussell.pa''s message of 16 Mar 84 14':36 PST'
To': DMRussell.pa'
cc': LafiteSupport.pa'
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I beg your pardon; top-blank is the UNDO key for TEdit.  UNDO is undoable.  However, the undo only works to a single level, so if you hit BS after UNDO, you''re stuck.'
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I''ve submitted a suggestion to the TEdit queue that deletion be an accretive process as far as undo is concerned.'
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Date': 16 Mar 84 15':20 PST'
From': Sybalsky.pa'
Subject': TEdit': deletion after UNDO of insertion should cumulate'
To': TEditSupport.pa'
cc': Sybalsky.pa'
TEdit-System-Date': 16-Mar-84 10':14':01'
Lisp-System-Date': 15-Mar-84 00':13':18'
Machine-Type': Dorado'
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Wish list entry for TEdit':'
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That hitting BS after UNDOing a massive insert shouldn''t cause you to lose your inserted text.  One way to do this is to have deletions add to one another if they are adjacent....  ANother is multi-level undo.'
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Date': 16 Jul 84 09':27 PDT'
From': AHenderson.pa'
Subject': TEdit': Typo on BS looses much work'
To': TEditSupport.pa'
cc': AHenderson.pa'
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TEdit System Date': 31-May-84 18':44':31'
Lisp System Date': 10-Jun-84 18':41':09'
Machine': Dorado (AHenderson)'
Microcode version': 24,4'
Memory size': 10000'
Frequency': Intermittent'
Impact': Serious'
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When I want to backspace over something, I hit BS. If I make a type there, I hit the top blank (TB) key, which undoes the last typing. If I don''t notice that error and type the corrected characters, or if the typo is a roll-over with TB followed by a correct BS, there is no way to get back all the "undone" typing. This has happened enough that I find it a serious problem.'
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Suggestion': use the bottom blank key for undo, which rolls over to the mode key RSHIFT; make the TB key do nothing, or maybe even do BS, so as to make BS easier to hit.'
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Question': Can I do this myself by "rewiring" the keys? '
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Austin'
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Date': 17 Jul 84 01':10 PDT'
From': Nuyens.pa'
Subject': Re': TEdit': Typo on BS looses much work'
In-reply-to': AHenderson.pa''s message of 16 Jul 84 09':27 PDT'
To': AHenderson.pa'
cc': TEditSupport.pa'
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Yup,'
  I just discussed this with John.  Neither of us seem to lose from this very often, but we have seen this complaint repeatedly. Hence, we will bow to the vox populi (sp? ).  It is not clear whether we want to move the key, or change the event that makes typein an atomic event (and hence subject to undo and, desirably, redo).  But you will get a solution.'
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Greg'
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Edit-By: Sannella.PA

Edit-Date: 17-Jul-84 12':05':52

Attn: Sybalsky, nuyens

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System: Text

Subsystem: TEdit

Machine: 1132

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Difficulty: 

Frequency: Intermittent

Impact: Moderate

Priority: Hopefully

Status: Open

Problem Type: Design - UI

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