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Usenet Mac Digest Friday, 21 Mar 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 16
Today's Topics:
Administrativia - Replying to digest messages
Profile, SCSI
Books in your future
Macintosh Programmer's Workstation?
MAC SCSI drivers
Re: Bulletin Boards
Macintosh Hard Drives
Jerky screen problem
Tilde for MacTerminal 2.0
Question on QuickDraw pictures
Re: Jerky screen problem
100 MB Harddisk
Appletalk to RS232 interface (Mac as a workstation).
MacPascal question
Macintosh disk upgrade
Re: Jerky screen problem
Re: text reader?
Re: SmallTalk on a Mac+
Re: Mac+ Upgrades
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From: aubery@oracle.UUCP (Eric aubery)
Subject: Profile, SCSI
Date: 16 Mar 86 18:31:26 GMT
Organization: Oracle, Belmont Ca
Does anyone know if there's a way to use Profile drives with a (non-XL)
Mac?
Anyone out there have a MacSCSI that would like to write about it? I'm
interested in trying a "do it yourself" type project to connect (cheap)
(large) disks to the Mac using SCSI. Anyone care to comment?
Thanks
-eric (No fancy signature line yet)
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From: chuq@sun.uucp (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Books in your future
Date: 17 Mar 86 06:21:31 GMT
Organization: Third Person, Omniscient
This is a list of the books I could find in the January 31, 1986 issue of
Publishers Weekly, the Spring Announcement section. It's been culled over
the last couple of weeks from about 500 pages of mostly tiny type, so if it
is something that you find useful, I'd appreciate it if you would mail me
your comments -- if enough people find this kind of list worthwhile and I
have the time, I'll try to compile them in the future.
A couple of interesting comments are in order:
o Despite its relative failure in the market, there are a bunch of
Jazz books coming out --- it looks like the publishers got caught in
the same trap as Lotus and are hoping to break even instead of
simply eating the contracts. I'd expect some of the announced books
will either never show or come and go out of print quickly.
o Excel publishing is REALLY heating up. And it's probably
justified. There is a wide variety of Excel related products,
and most of them seem to be of the practical nature (unlike a lot of
the "the mac is really NEAT" books in the early days of Mac
publishing). I expect it is already too late to get into this market
since it will saturate soon -- if you don't already have your
contract, don't bother.
o I am beginning to think that the languages market (especially C
and Pascal) are beginning to saturate. There are some GOOD C books
out now, and better pascal books than the language they use (either
defunct Lisa Pascal or ratty MacPascal). A good TML Pascal book
would be a Godsend, and I'm starting to see some Forth books come
out. If we could get a good, solid Lisp for the Mac, a Lisp book
would be wonderful. A GOOD assembler book would also be useful, but
the two or three I've see have been average, at best.
o no real books on the Mac+ yet, but expect that some of the later
books (Like Lon Poole's) to be revised to some degree between now
and then to include it. Expect the Mac+ deluge to really start
showing up in July/August for the publishers with the ability to
respond quickly (yes, six months is fast in publishing) and late in
the year for the hangers on.
o Everyone is jumping on the Desktop (or Personal) Publishing
bandwagon. I expect this is where all the "Hey, this is neat stuff!"
hack authors have gone into. Be VERY wary buying in this market
segment -- definitely buyer beware.
o How many books do we REALLY need that explain how to plug a modem
into a Mac?
chuq
===
Publishers Spring Macintosh related books
(books to expect between February and August)
Format: title, author/editor last name(s) [if greater than three, first
author followed by et al], price, and published ship date.
Notes:
o books have been known to show up from 3-4 weeks before announced month
to end last week of the month. Sometimes later. Sometimes not at all.
o if no ship date shown, it should be available now.
Addison Wesley
Apple Numerics Manual, $29.95
Lotus Worksheet File Formats: Essential Data File Facts About 1-2-3,
Symphony, and Jazz, $19.95
LaserWrite It!, Cavuoto, $16.95
The Cornerstone Book, 20 Blueprints for Applications, Buddine, $16.95
Imagewriter II Technical Reference manual, $19.95, April
Solutions in C, Programming Tips by the Author of "Doctor C's
Pointers", Jarschke, $17.95, June
Computer Animation, Weinstock, $34.95 trade paper, July
Balantine Trade Paperbacks
Creating Simulation Games on your Computer, Hartnell, $14.95, May
Bantam Trade Books
Macintosh C Primer Plus, The Waite Group, $18.95
The Art of Desktop Publishing: Using the Personal Computer to Publish
it Yourself, Bove et al, $18.95, July
Chilton Book Company
Chilton's Guide to Macintosh Repair and Maintenance, Williams, $12.50, April
Dow Jones-Irwin
Dynamics of Jazz, Bell, $19.95
Desktop Publishing, Davis et al, $25.00
Controlling Your Cash Flow with Jazz and the Macintosh, Glau, $22.00
Dynamics of Microsoft Word, Macintosh Edition, Pfaffenberger, $19.95
Hayden Book Company
Programming the 68000: Macintosh Assembly Language. Rosenzweig and
Harrison, $24.95
Object Oriented Programming, Schmucker, $24.95, April
Macintosh Data Files, Miller, $17.95, May
Personal Publishing with the Macintosh, Ulick, $19.95, May
The Serious Macintosh: Tips, Tricks, and Advice for Advanced Users,
Harriman and Callica, $17.95, June
Writing Macintosh Software, Knaster, $19.95, June
Advanced Macintosh Pascal, Goodman, $19.95, July
Macintosh Communications, Dengle, $18.95, July
Inside Jazz, Macintosh Library/National Training systems, $49.95 [book/software]
Henry Holt and Company/ Owl Books
How to Telecommunicate: A Personal Computer Users Guide, Sandler, $17.95, June
Hal Leonard Books
Music & Midi: The Application of MIDI in Performance, Education, and
Home Use, Rudolph et al, $14.95, April
Microsoft Press
Microsoft Excel With Macros, Hergert, $19.95, June
Programmers at Work: Interviews with 15 of Today's Most Brilliant
Microcomputer Programmers, $14.95, April
Lon Poole's Mac Insights: Secrets, Shortcuts, and Solutions for the
Apple Macintosh, Poole, $18.95, August
The Algorithmic Image: Graphic Visions of the Computer Age, Rivlin, $24.95, July
New American Library
Jazz Reference Guide, Warren and Spoor, $18.95
Lotus Jazz: Models for Financial and Business Users, Lichty, $18.95
Library of Forth Routines, Kelly et al, $22.95
Software Spare Parts: C Language Routines and Utilities, Porter, $19.50
Osborne/McGraw Hill
Business Solving with Excel, Molloy et al, $17.95, March
Planning and Budgeting with Excel, Alves et al, $17.95, April
Planning Big with MacProject, Halcomb, $16.95, May
Preparing Your Business Plan with Excel, Osgood et al, $17.95, May
Que Books
Excel Macro Library, April
Using Excel
Sams Books
Artificial Intelligence Programming on the Macintosh, Shafer, $24.95
C Programming Techniques for Macintosh, Shilke, $18.95, april
MacPascal Programming Techniques, Cassidy, $18.95, June
Microcomputer Projects with the 68000, Barden, $22.95, June
John Wiley and Sons
JCL for IBM VSE Systems: A Self Teaching Guide, Ashley et al, $12.95
Excel: A Power User's Guide, Hodgkins, $19.95
Macintosh Logo: A Self Teaching Guide, Haigh and Radford, $18.95, May
Mac Basic, a Self Teaching Guide, Finkel and Brown, $16.95, July
--
:From catacombs of Castle Tarot: Chuq Von Rospach
chuq@sun.ARPA FidoNet: 125/84
CompuServe: 73317,635
{decwrl,decvax,hplabs,ihnp4,pyramid,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!chuq
I used to worry about splitting my infinitives until I realized that most
people had never heard of them.
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From: sakw@cvaxa.UUCP (Sak Wathanasin)
Subject: Macintosh Programmer's Workstation?
Date: 17 Mar 86 20:31:13 GMT
Organization: Univ of Sussex, Cognitive Studies, UK
I got these from a UK bulletin board called MacTel. I'm posting them here as I
haven't seen any discussion of this topic on the net.
---------------from MacTel----------
Message : 406
Submitted: 3/10/86 12:10
Submitted by: FELIX KAEGI
Subject: Future Macs
Following two interesting news item from an American BBS, I hope you
enjoy them:
95C Macintosh Programmer's Workstation
>From: BOB DENNY 334
When: 4:41p Sat, 11-Jan-86
I just got back from Apple, having delivered the firqt installment
of the work we are doing for them. While there, I saw the evaluation
version of MPW, Macintosh Programmer's Workstation. There has been
little discussion about MPW on this board, so I thought you all would
like to know:
Languages: Pascal (Lisa - compatible)
C (by Green Hills in Pasadena, VERY nice & optimized)
Assembler (the assembler is dynamite at first inspection
I didn't see the edito (nuts!)
The linker handles a mixture of the languages, and is reasonbly
good about segmentation etc.
I don't think the linker handles resources, however, and I didn't see
what the new "RMAKER" looked like. The documentation was about 4"
thick, very "finished" looking, not like Inside Mac.
>From: BOB DENNY 334
When: 4:48p Sat, 11-Jan-86
This is even more exciting ... I can now say a little about Mac Work
Station. This is a "generic" application what runs on the Mac, and
a library of functions designed to run under Unix or VAX/VMS which
implement a fantastic array of functions with which the host can
use the Mac as a high-power user-interface work station. This baby is
developed to the "product" stage (well ... almost), there are special
binders and tabs, and a platic packet of diskettes, plus the host tape.
ThE Host-Mac protocol is slowly being formalized, and it MAY be
published soon. Apple is currently deciding how to position this as
a product and market it. I just completed an adaptation of VAX Mail
which speaks MWS protocol. It's dynamite! Running a VAX application
with a Mac interface! Wheeeeeeee!!! (and they paid me, too!).
Having seen UW in action, I can't wait to see MPW.
regards,
--
Sak Wathanasin, U of Sussex, Cognitive Studies, Falmer, Sussex BN1 9QN, UK
uucp:...mcvax!ukc!cvaxa!sakw arpa/janet: sakw%uk.ac.sussex.cvaxa@uk.ac.ucl.cs
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From: mark@hyper.UUCP (Mark Mendel)
Subject: MAC SCSI drivers
Date: 14 Mar 86 20:21:19 GMT
Organization: Network Systems Corp., Mpls., Mn.
Soon I will be upgrading to the MAC+ and my lust will be redirected towards a
hard disk. However, is Apple releasing a driver for the new SCSI port? I
have heard no mention of such.
Or are they leaving it to the manufacturers of HDs for MAC to supply a driver?
Seems to me that the only thing making their products Mac-specific
would be such a driver.
The other required software would be a SCSI disk initializer, which would
query the disk size and allow partitioning and cluster-size specification.
Does such a beast exist?
Respond by mail. I'll summarize.
Mark Mendel @ Network Systems Corporation
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From: ngg@bridge2.UUCP (Norman Goodger)
Subject: Re: Bulletin Boards
Date: 15 Mar 86 21:45:00 GMT
Organization: Bridge Communications, Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Bruce, they are currently 3 Bulletin board software packages available
for the Macintosh, they are:
1. Mouse Exchange
2. Beta Board (requires MS Basic)
3. Red Ryder Host
Of the 3, I reccommend only Red Ryder Host for the following reasons:
Mouse Exchange From Dreams of Phoenix is HIGHLY unreliable, I ran
that package for 3 months with a least a crash a week, usually
destructive, it would either delete the contents of the callerlog
or in some cases the password file or some file of the BBS that you
would not want to lose.
The Beta Board requires Ms basic and for this reason is slow and
has a lot of sub-files to load to move from section to section of
the BBS.
Red Ryder Host is not perfect, but is in my opinion the most
powerful of the three. It is from the Freesoft Company and Scott
Watson. It is a true BBs construction set. you can build all
your menus to your specification, they can say what ever you wish.
You can create a many menus as you need to create a BBS as large
as you want. there are 255 security levels, with the ability to
tie them to your menu commands. This provide users access only to
what menus you want certain users to see depending on what access
you give them. You can create as many file transfer sections as you
need or only have one if you want. there are editors for File section
maintanence, message section maintanenece, Userlog maintanence, and of
course the menu editor to construct all your menus. Messages sections
also you can create as many or as few as you want to maintain. All
messages are compressed, taking less file space. There is also a
configuration editor that sets up overall parameters for the BBS;
like what volume does the caller log go to, what will the callerlog
contain, such as logging the uploads/downloads users send, and other
items that are sysop selectable. It configures open or closed system;
in other words , do you set it up for specific user, no new users. It
configures paging times bell length, system message options etc. the
system provides 3 configurable messages to the user on login, you can
use all or none, its up to you. you can even configure themif you wish
all in all its pretty good and powerful package. it difficult to
go into all the features here. This should hopefully be enough.
Norm Goodger
Bridge Comm
Bridge2!ngg
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From: steves@kepler.UUCP (Steve Schlich)
Subject: Macintosh Hard Drives
Date: 18 Mar 86 23:08:03 GMT
Organization: MicroPro Int'l Corp., San Rafael, CA
I'm looking at hard disks for my Mac Plus and would welcome any and
all advice I can get. Is it worth waiting to see what possibilities
the SCSI port has?
Assuming that speed is an important criterion, is there *any* advantage
to an external drive (like MacBottom and HD-20) over the internal ones
(like Hyperdrive and Warp 9)? I'm particularly interested in a relative
merits comparison between Hyperdrive and Warp 9.
You can mail me or post follow-ups; I'll keep track and post results to
the net either way. Thanks in advance.
--
You've got to start young if you're going to stick it out.
--Firesign Theater
Steve Schlich, MicroPro Product Development
{lll-crg,ihnp4!ptsfa,dual,well,pyramid}!micropro!kepler!steves
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From: osmigo1@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ron Morgan)
Subject: Jerky screen problem
Date: 19 Mar 86 16:56:14 GMT
Organization: Speech Communication UT Austin
*I've been having a problem with my mac, and wondered if any of you could offer some opinions.
The past three days, my screen has been "twitching." The movement is chara-
cterized by shifting in one direction and then back, "waves" passing through
the text, as if I were looking through a clear gel which wobbled from time
to time. When it's at its worst, I see jagged edges running up and down the
sides of the display, often connected across the screen by lines.
All of these events are fairly quick. They last from about .2 to .4 seconds.
Factors:
About a month ago, I got a third-party upgrade which involved a board swap.
The cost was $150.00.
The last few days, a roofing crew has been working on the roof of my apartment
building.
This mac has been on an average of probably 12-16 hours a day for 2 years.
It is kept covered when not in use. Could I be getting power supply problems?
Thanks in advance,
Ron Morgan
osmigo1@ut-ngp.UUCP
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From: jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler)
Subject: Tilde for MacTerminal 2.0
Date: 20 Mar 86 05:02:00 GMT
Organization: AMD, Sunnyvale, California
I saw a few people ask again about how to make the '~' key easy to
use on MacTerminal 2.0, so I'll describe the process again:
1. Use ResEdit (I think any version, but 0.7 and up for sure)
2. Open MacTerminal 2.0
3. Open KICH
4. Open KICH ID=256
5. Look for the following sequence:
1B 60 1B 7E 1B 60 1B 7E
1B 60 1B 7E 1B 60 1B 7E
6. Replace it with:
1B 60 7E 7E 1B 60 7E 7E
7E 60 7E 7E 7E 60 7E 7E
7. Close KICH ID=256
8. Close KICH
9. Close and save MacTerminal 2.0
The ~/` key now will work as follows:
alone -> ESC
SHIFT -> ~
CAPSLOCK -> ESC
COMMAND -> `
Have fun.
--
Jim Budler
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
(408) 749-5806
Usenet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb
Compuserve: 72415,1200
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From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois)
Subject: Question on QuickDraw pictures
Date: 20 Mar 86 22:05:17 GMT
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center
Is it possible to accurately erase a QuickDraw picture?
This is not (I think) as simple a question as it sounds. When you call
OpenPicture, you pass a rectangle which is used as a picture frame.
However, it is not used as a frame in the sense of a bounds rect, that
is, as "a boundary outside of which no drawing can be done", since you
can draw anywhere you like and it will show up when you replay the
picture. It *is* used for scaling on playback, e.g., if you call
DrawPicture with the picture handle, and a rectangle with sides twice
as long as the picture frame, the resulting picture will be 4 times as
big as the original (2x2).
Thus you cannot simply EraseRect with the rectangle passed to
DrawPicture since you don't really know the bounds of the picture. Nor
can you draw the picture, then draw it again after setting the pen to
xor mode (I tried it). I also tried bracketing all the drawing calls
during picture formation with picture comments, then installing my own
capture proc for picture comments, and setting the pen mode during
picture playback. That didn't work either.
Of course, in retrospect I now realize that these attempts were
tremendously naive, but I'm still curious. Can it be done? How do you
do it, (short of installing capture procs to intercept every single
QuickDraw call during picture playback)?
--
|
Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois --+--
|
Doth the hawk fly by thy wisdom, and stretch her wings |
toward the south? Job 39:26
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From: spector@acf4.UUCP (David HM Spector)
Subject: Re: Jerky screen problem
Date: 20 Mar 86 12:53:00 GMT
Organization: New York University
Sounds like your power supply the ("Analog Board") is getting a little flakey.
Mine did that for a little while before it fried my Macintosh. ...Thank
G-d for AppleCare.
Dave Spector
NYU/acf Systems Group
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From: harder@unizh.UUCP
Subject: 100 MB Harddisk
Date: 20 Mar 86 02:03:12 GMT
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Univ. Zuerich, Switzerland
I have the job to change a library (about 100 000 volumes)
to computer administration. This produces a lot of data, but
not much computing. Therefore i think that i can do the job
with a macintosh connected to a large (> 100 MB) harddisk.
We need a formal catalogue (author, title and institution
{in alphabetical order }) and a systematic subject catalogue.
Some questions to the net:
-Has someone experience with similar applications.
-Has someone experience with large harddisks (> 100 MB)
and the macintosh (access time, brand, scsi interface ...)
-Does anybody know appropriate data management systems
( amount of data, for example omnis3 B, facilities for
input control...)
Thanks in advance, if there is interest , i'll report
a summary to the net.
August Harder
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From: johnd@kvvax4.UUCP (John Dibble)
Subject: Appletalk to RS232 interface (Mac as a workstation).
Date: 19 Mar 86 09:28:15 GMT
Organization: Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk, P.O. 25, N-3601 Norway.
I am looking for a prevoiusly posted program called ATprint (modem to AT port).
Could someone out there mail me a copy (the source would also be much
appreciated)?
I am working on a generic workstation based on the mac toolbox and I am
looking for a quick solution for using ATP via the modem port. Has anyone
done anything similar?
John Dibble ({decvax,philabs}!mcvax!kvport!kvvax4!johnd)
A/S Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk, P.O.Box 25, N-3601 Kongsberg
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From: m55al@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (Deepak Munjal)
Subject: MacPascal question
Date: 20 Mar 86 21:24:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
I've got MacPascal and I'm trying to make a key command
that halts the program when its running. I've tried
Hertzfeld's Menu Editor, but it doesn't seem to work
with MacPascal. But even if it did, I wouldn't be able
to make a key command for halt because the menu that has
the halt command only appears when the program is running.
Any ideas to remedy this situation would be greatly
appreciated.
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From: ching@amd.UUCP (Mike Ching)
Subject: Macintosh disk upgrade
Date: 20 Mar 86 21:07:10 GMT
Organization: AMD Applications, Santa Clara, CA
Has anyone discovered a drive that can be used to upgrade the external
Macintosh drive? Apple hasn't announced any upgrade policy and I don't
care to purchase a $100 drive for $500 or whatever the external drive
costs these days. I have seen Epson, Toshiba and Tamagawa? 3.5"
double sided drives for <$100. The Epson says it has a 5.25" drive
interface. The others have no documentation. Is there a standard
3.5" drive interface? Thanks in advance for any info.
Mike Ching
...amdcad!ching
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From: werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (Werner Uhrig)
Subject: Re: Jerky screen problem
Date: 21 Mar 86 11:55:11 GMT
Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas
Anyone with this symptom should check and adjust the 5 and 9 Volt voltage
level coming off the analog board. As a matter of fact, everyone should
do that, just for peace of mind. This is especially important after an
upgrade to 512K or to Megabytes.
My Mickey "acted up" after I upgraded to 2Meg and when I checked, my
5 Volt level at the plug where the ribbon-cable coming from the main board
connects into the analog board, showed only 4.3 Volts.
>From what I have seen, *EVERYONE* should check (have someone check) and
adjust all settings on the analog board right after purchase and anytime
the machine is open and had not been checked for a while. Of course,
if you are still in warranty or if you are not absolutely sure what you are
doing, I encourage you to pay the few bucks this might cost you to have a
certified Apple tech do this for you. On the other hand, I myself don't
really have much trust and confidence in the "run of the mill" (lawyer,
doctor, car-mechanic) technicians, but at least you can sue them (maybe),
whereas you can't even kick yourself in the rear effectively.... ((-:
below I enclose a list of the pin-assignments of the ribbon-cable connecting
the analog board with the digital (main) board
(copied from Beck-Tech's poster-schematics)
PIN ASSIGNMENT
1 VIDEO
3 H SYNC
4 SOUND
5 V SYNC
6 +5V DC
7 GND
8 -12V DC
9 GND
10 +12V DC
11 BATTERY
I hope this helps, ---Werner
Disclaimers: YES - ALL
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From: werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (Werner Uhrig)
Subject: Re: text reader?
Date: 21 Mar 86 12:53:38 GMT
Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas
[ condensed from INFOWORLD Vol.8#11, March 17, 86, page 48: Products ]
Abaton Sells Scan For $2,495
Abaton Technology Corp. has recently begun shipping Scan 3000, its new
$2,495 scanner with 300-dot-per-inch (dpi) resolution.
Users can scan continuous tone photographs or line art and drawings up
to 8.5 inches wide. The resulting images can be placed into documents and
reproduced on page printers. ....
Users can take parts of an image scanned at 300 dpi, transfer them to programs
such as MacPaint for manipulation and adjustment, and then reload them into
Scan 300 software for printing ....
Abaton is currently developing optical character recognition software that
the company plans to offer as an option .... for IBMs in ~ 2 months .. for
Macs in ~6 months ...
Abaton Technology Corp., 1526 Cloverfield Blvd., Santa Monica CA 90404
(818)905-9399
[ I realize that this product is more expensive than desirable, but I thought
it interesting anyway. Maybe this is the next product showing up in
places now offering Laserwriters on a per-page price. ---Werner ]
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From: Herb Barad <packard!oberon!brand!barad@topaz.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: SmallTalk on a Mac+
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 86 10:28:00 pst
Organization: U. of So. Calif., Los Angeles
Yes, I am running SmallTalk on a Mac+. Everything seems to work fine - with
1 major exception. You have to make a patch in the smalltalk interpretor
for SmallTalk to recognize the Mac+'s Enter key (this can get you the Blue
Button Menu). I have posted this patch earlier to net.lang.st80 and
net.micro.mac.
There is a small problem in assembling the level 1 image onto a DS floppy.
You have to have a hard disk attached to your Mac+. Why, well you can fit
the pieces of the level 1 image (~650K) onto a disk, but DivJoin will try to
reassemble the pieces on the same disk, consequently you will run out of
room. I borrowed a demo Mac+ w/hard disk at a store to create my SmallTalk
DS floppy.
Hope this helps...
--
Herb Barad [USC - Signal and Image Processing Institute]
USENET:
...!sdcrdcf!usc-oberon!brand!barad or
...!{lbl-csam|trwrb|trwspp}!trwspf!herb or
...!{lbl-csam|trwrb|trwspp}!trwspf!brand!barad
ARPANET: barad%brand@usc-ecl.ARPA
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From: seismo!harvard!h-sc1!clarke@topaz.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: Mac+ Upgrades
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 86 00:07:11 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
April is definately a rumor. In fact, my roommate got an upgrade from a 512Mac
to a Mac+ (he didn't get the RAM, just the drive and ROM, but they had the RAM
available) two days ago (that puts it about March 18th). He got it from
The Coop in Cambridge, MA. I don't think they got very many in, but he was the
first person on their waiting list.
-Cam Clarke
clarke%h-sc4@harvard.ARPA (or h-sc1)
clarke@h-sc4.UUCP (or h-sc1)
clarke@HARVUNXU.BITNET
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